MSM: Before we get started I have a trick question; What is a Tamil?
SR: A Tamil is basically identified as a language. Tamil which is supposed to be the mother of all Dravidian languages, dating back to several thousand years of recorded history. And the people who speak this language have particular traditions, cultures, way of life, heritage, and thinking. Note that the Kurds are the largest population of a people that do not have a homeland. The Tamils are second.
MSM: Okay, thanks. I’m sort of conducting a survey… Could we start with your personal background?
SR: Let's see... My parents were from a village called Umurpai, near Jaffna, and as most of the educated middle-class Tamils they lived and worked in Colombo and the south. I was born in Jaffna and my father was working in the south.
MSM: And how old were you then?
SR: About nine years old.
MSM: So where did you move to then?
SR: That night, on the third night, we moved in with a neighbor...
MSM: Sinhalese or Tamil?
SR: Muslim... I don't remember his real name but we called him "uncle" and they came that night and threatened him as well. The next day we moved to a refugee camp that was set up near the college as our house was set on fire that night. And we lost all our possessions, you understand. My only worry at that time was that I had a big tricycle and I was day and night thinking about this tricycle and what could have happened to this. I begged my father to take me to the house the next day - I just wanted to retrieve my cycle, or see if it was still there or see what had happened to it. My mother wouldn't let us go. She said that the sight is so unbearable that I don't want you to see what happened to all our possessions. Apparently my bike was in the living room where all the newspapers from the last few months had accumulated, all the newspapers we had read.
MSM: Bad place to leave the tricycle if the house is on fire.
SR: Yes, it was near the stairs, too. So there I was in the refugee camp for two weeks, with nothing except my shorts - trousers. Nothing on top, nothing on foot. Having to stand in the never-ending food line for my bread and dhal for breakfast lunch and dinner. As my brother and sisters were too small I had to stand in line for them also.
MSM: Considered dangerous by the government? THEY were afraid to cart you around?
SR: Yes; Here we were as citizens of this beautiful island. We cannot move from one part of the country to another part. Had to be shipped by several shipping convoys and it took four days since they were not moving in the night, fearing danger. So off to Jaffna we went. The trip wasn't, I would say, enjoyable. It was just a cargo ship, temporarily set up for this and we were on the deck with milk and biscuits.
MSM: …like yourself.
SR: Right. So it was in '66 when the family decided I should move in with my father in Colombo. It was an okay life, but we thought it would be a good idea, since they were having a hard time getting along, that was when, my family moved to Colombo.
MSM: With a name like that I can see why..
SR: He was the focal point and instrumental in getting this group together. He used to travel to Sri Lanka often and had a very good rapport with the finance minister, and many Sinhalese left. The idea was to study our problem in comparison with others at that time and to draw parallels between them. ‘Can we adopt these methods to our own situation,’ for example. We studied the problems in Mozambique, Angola, Palestine. And then we would discuss as a group what we had learned and how it applied to Sri Lanka. It was kind of a recruitment or … indoctrination process.
MSM: Was this Ratna's intent?
SR: Yes, and those that played a prominent role in the study group were aware of this.
MSM: So I suppose you had guest lecturers too, then?
SR: Yes, representatives would come and give a small speech and interact with people if there were questions after the talk. We also organized fund-raising and networking functions. So it was in that way, apart from the freedom struggle in Sri Lanka, that we came into contact with other more radical groups. And this led us, naturally, closer to the Palestinian group and in particular to their representative in London.
MSM: We like tea! We work late!
SR: [laughing] While we were going out a group came and took us and there was an exchange of greetings and in no time bags were packed and we were whipped away in a Red Cross ambulance. And that was my first sight of war, when the ambulance, with sirens blowing, crossed roads, avoiding bodies, burnt cars, burnt armor, and .. Until we reached the so-called "Green Line" where apparently things were a little easier. This was in the camp. It was why we had a red-cross ambulance. Actually, I never knew that an ambulance could be used for any purpose other than medical. We were taken to the PLO office in the camp, assignments were given to us, and we handed over the tea and performed these pleasantries, and we were told we would be met by the officer. So after a while we were driven by the military vehicles, without lights, along a mountainous track up over long hills in the night, and finally we reached a place in the Beeckay Valley. I forget the village.. It was six or seven kilometers from the Syrian border. Before we had even settled down the delegation came and we were interviewed by the military commander of that time, Abu Jihad. He briefed us and told us we would be put through a program and told us where we would stay. It happened to be in the stables of the brother of the king of Jordan. So there were lots of beautiful horses.. I love horses, these thoroughbred Arabian horses, and some little huts around .. Then we were moved after a couple of days to a camp in Damascus to a PLO camp called Hamooriya. Mostly for international training.. There were Nigerians, Germans, everyone. It all took place in English and Arabic and we were put in our group.
MSM: What did they teach you?
SR: Different classes did different things. Warfare tactics, weapons, device improvisation, explosives, special techniques such as letter-bombs and things like that. So the explosives training was so comprehensive, technically, that you would have various formulas and calculations to calculate the quantity of various explosives. For example, the design of detonation for a dead tree or a live tree; a tree of different sizes; a building with round pillars or square pillars; the thickness of the wall; the area to be detonated; the range of destruction. We had mathematical approaches for these different ways to calculate all of this... All these kinds of .. It was a thorough, comprehensive class. And we had small practical experiments dealing with various types of detonators and setting up explosives, trying them out, and all that.
MSM: Did they talk about psychological impact that these weapons had, or was it just pragmatic?
SR: No. That was not the intention of this training. In terms of political, how you select targets, outcome, what type of criteria, that was not addressed. That was not the training. The other aspect was using these things safely, how to escape, protect yourself and your comrades. But there were other courses as well; machine guns, grenade construction, enemy weaponry, anti-aircraft guns, SAMs, blow-pipes, etc.
MSM: And who was "The Enemy?"
SR: Well for them it was the Israelis; For us, as far as guerrilla warfare, it was the Sri Lankan state.
MSM: October 22, 1984. [referring to the bomb blasts in Colombo]… What happened?
SR: Prior to that incident.. Technically I was in charge of that incident. Activities were carried out with my second in command with whom I was in constant communication. We realized that the war was not brining out the desired effect. We wanted the government to negotiate and they were ignoring this call.
MSM: How did you determine the locations?
SR: Preferably a location would be near a security or military installations. Two, it should be in the vicinity of a lot of public movement, just in the vicinity, but we did not want to affect the public. We wanted to create public attention. We hit commuter centers, for example, where there was a lot of movement. And then it should be spread out in such a pattern that while they were dealing with an explosion in south Colombo there was a bomb going off in north Colombo. They literally didn't have time to deal with it. By the fourth bomb they didn't have enough people to deal with it. I think this was the message: Things Are Going To Get Worse… We Cannot Be Ignored. The selection of targets minimized casualties, so it was clear that this was not an act of revenge. We wanted to highlight the weakness of the civic structure.
MSM: And what do you interpret the messages of September 11, 2001 to be? It was similar in its ability to draw public attention, but it was also different because that was intended to maximize casualties. What do you think Al Qaida was saying?
SR: This isn't a political message. It’s past that. It's a message of revenge. The only message is "We can also show our destructive capabilities. The Homeland is not safe." And I think that it was intended to show the pain and frustration of the Arab brethren who were going through with that act.
MSM: When you were a student in London you talked about how you studied Angola and Palestine to learn how they dealt with their problems, looking for similar solutions. I'm approaching the problem in the same way, but I come from the imperialist side of the equation. So, as I said, I'm trying to learn what happened in Sri Lanka.. what [was it that] helped diffuse the anger of the Tamils and finally get back to the talks. With that in mind, what could Sri Lanka have done 50 years ago to avoid all of the problems here?
SR: There were signs and signals from the start. They should have stuck to what they said. Instead it was too little too late. There were three pacts that were signed but not really followed. The Dougly-Chelanyakam pact in 1956, the Bandaranayake- Chelanyakam pact in 1964, and the District Government Councils in 1970.